Archive for the ‘Mythos_Logos’ category

Just_Saying_Thu03/01/2012

March 1, 2012

Reality isn’t the way you wish things to be, nor the way they appear to be, but the way they actually are.–Robert J. Ringer

Unfortunately our access to the way things actually are is somewhat limited. Our senses are imperfect, our attention is imperfect, and our brain interpretes things based upon what it already knows or believes. Of these three limitations, the last is by far the most significant. This means that the way things apper to be is often far different from the way they actually are.

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Just_Saying_Thu01/26/2012

January 26, 2012

Pythagoras said, “Reason is immortal, all else is mortal.” Interesting but is it true? Sort of depends on what “true” means in this context.–me

Reason is a system, that is a formal set of rules, for manipulating symbols. Pythagoras is implying that that system and those rules exist independent of the universe (creation?). He is asserting that reason would exist in essentially the same form independent of the mind containing them. I’m not at all sure that’s realistic. To me the the set of rules, as well as the symbols, can be said to exist only in the context of the human mind. To me Pythagoras’ statement is a myth, presented in the language of logos.

Just_Saying_Wed01/25/2012

January 25, 2012

Stop telling yourself who you are, who God is, whatever mental pictures you create they are most certainly wrong.–“Jesus” (from EdenDialogs.wordpress.com)

This is a very odd saying, it’s mythos speaking from the perspective of logos. It’s mythos talking about the limitations of mythos. It’s a warning that the stories the ego creates for us are most certainly wrong. That is, they are not reality and should not be treated as such. Like any myths, they can be used, to the extent that they work for us. But we must remain vigilant for stories that do not and ore for stories that we have outgrown.

Just_Saying_Wed01/18/2012

January 18, 2012

Lord when I strip away all the mental constructs, I see neither you nor me. I see only one thing and for That I have no words.–me (from EdenDialogs.wordpress.com)

The above is written in the language of Mythos. That is, it’s part of a story intended to express a spiritual truth that is difficult to express in terms of objective data and logic. It is a story that happened only through the process of “Active Imagination”. It happened in subjective reality rather than objective reality.

Basically it characterizes objective reality as a set of mental constructs. It says that if you sweep away those constructs, only one thing remains. I recognize that the word thing is wholly inadequate as it is used here, but it’s the best I can do.

So, is this real? I don’t know, I don’t even know what real might mean in this context. I do think it expresses a useful way to be in this life which is a we should expect from mythos.

Just_Saying_Mon01/02/2012

January 2, 2012

Not sure Heaven or Hell can be said to be places, but to the extent they can, they are both in the same location. Which one you experience depends less upon what you do than upon who you are.–me

The way I use the term, both Heaven and Hell are mythos. That is whether they exist as actual places is irrelevant. Both have more to do with describing the human condition than with objective reality. In that context, both lie within us. They are places we chose to dwell based upon the law of love which is:

    Love they neighbor as thyself.

To the extent we are properly able to love, we dwell in heaven; if we are not we dwell in hell.

Just_Saying_Mon12/19/2011

December 19, 2011

“I don’t see what’s so t’riffic about creating people as people and then gettin’ upset ‘cos they act like people,” said Adam severely. “Anyway, if you stopped tellin’ people it’s all sorted out after they’re dead, they might try sorting it all out while they’re alive.–Neil Gaiman and Terry Pratchett (Good Omens)

Probably my favorite all time book. The book posits the Antichrist as a 9 year old who doesn’t understand why the world works as it does. Nevertheless he loves it and isn’t about to see it destroyed by any silly Armegeddon. In this bit he’s wondering why people, created as they were, deserved punishment for acting like people in Eden. Next he’s wondering how it makes sense to tell folks that things will work out right for them after they’ve died since that clearly demotivates them for setting things right while they are alive.

These are pretty good questions, though the first is better than the second. Both hint at one of the book’s underlying themes.

The angels think they have the whole plan doped out. So do the demons and also most religions. They are all wrong, the plan is ineffable. Regarding spiritual truth, it’s been said that those who say don’t know and those who know don’t say. All I can say is …Yep.

Just_Saying_Mon12/05/2011

December 5, 2011

There was something formless and perfect before the universe was born….For lack of a better name I call it Tao.–Lao-Tzu, S. Mitchell tr.

Time as we know it started when the universe began so this is speaking of a whole different thing. It speaks about something before time and space existed, before either of the Genesis accounts of creation. It’s using words and concepts where no words or human concepts apply. Thus it is beautiful, filled with meaning and purpose, but it is also utter nonsense. This is the essence of pure Mythos.